What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab
and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t code?

Question Posted / praveen.grcsecurity

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t..

Answer / rajesh srisailapu

Hi ,

"Groups" tab in SU01

By using "Groups" tab in SU01, we can allocate user group
to number of users at a time, this is for find the list of
users of a particular user group but we cannot restrict any
user to any region or any location.

User Group in "Logon data"

If we assign any user to User Group in Logon data of SU01,
then user will restrict to particular user group or region
or location. Whenever user trying to do any activity other
than this user group, then system will show “You are not
authorized to "XXXX user group.” Even though user have the
access for particular activity.

Ex: Let us assume some ABC Project, its having multiple
locations like India(SEC_IN), China (SEC_CN), Australia
(SEC_AU)…etc. Each location having individual security
admin with respective user groups. Now India security admin
trying to do password reset to any cross country user like
China user(as per urgency/requirement)then system will
show “You are not authorized to reset password
to “SEC_CN” user group.” Because India security admin is
assign to SEC_IN user group. like this way we can restrict
the users with User Group in Logon data of SU01.

This is the main Difference between User Group in "Logon
data" and "Groups" tab in SU01.

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t..

Answer / halmstad

User Group in LOG ON TAB will under got authorization check
where as User group maintained in user groups tab will not
go under authorization check

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t..

Answer / praveen.grcsecurity

Logon data ----> Used for Authorization purpose
Groups ----> Not used for Authorization purpose

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t..

Answer / vasu.g

Hi Rajesh,

Thanks for the above...!!!

"Groups" tab in SU01

Yes you are correct "By using "Groups" tab in SU01, we can
allocate user group
to number of users at a time, this is for find the list of
users of a particular user group but we cannot restrict any
user to any region or any location."

but if we assgin user to User Group in Logon data of SU01
The user administrators will be ristricted to Maintain the
user master records of particular users, this restriction
will be possible with S_USER_GRP.

Ex: if we have User A with group assgined to "Admin" at
Logon Tab and User B with group assgined to "Support"

if Security admins are rescticted at Auth Object S_USER_GRP
for "Admin" Group, then security admin team can not change
any user Master records of user "A"

Regards,
Vasu.G

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t..

Answer / anusha

Both fields pull data from USGRP table.

entries for "user group " for auth check are checks on S_USER_GRP and they stored in table USR02 and in fld CLASS

where as GROUP is stored in table USGRP_USER
And can be displayed

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t..

Answer / satyajit

User Group for Authorization Check
If you assign a user to a user group for the authorization check on the Logon Data tab, you can distribute user maintenance tasks among several user administrators. The system administrator can assign the respective user administrator the right to create and change users in a group. Using the authorization object User Master Maintenance:User Groups ( S_USER_GRP), you can assign user groups to different administrators.

Users that are not assigned to any of the groups, can be maintained by all administrators.

General User Groups
You use the division of users into user groups on the Groups tab primarily to group users for mass maintenance (transaction SU10). Furthermore, the Global User Manager (transaction SUUM) uses the user groups.

In the user maintenance transaction (SU01), you can assign users to one or more groups on the Groups tab.

Maintaining User Groups
You create user groups using the function Environment -> User Groups -> Maintain. If you are using Central User Administration, you must create the user groups required in all systems.

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What is the difference between User group in LOGON DATA tab and user group in GROUPS tab in SU01 t..

Answer / raghuram.kondreddi

1.When you assign user group in groups tab that user name
will not be shown when you extract a report in SUIM-->Users
by complex criteria -->By user Id .

2. When you assign user group in Logon TAB that user name
will be shown in the same .

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG

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