Answer Posted / vivek garware

I think all events in the history cannot be and should not be seen on the criteria of proof. we can see that Europeans Americans respect their history which not only proved but also have great respect about their legendary stories which has no proofs. But they have faith that they are true and show them in cinemas and novels. Because every fact in history cannot be denied as it has no so called proofs. It is like saying that our ancestors --who had told us these historical stories and nourished our generations on these stories about such a great king shivaji and and saints like ramdas and tukaram - -were bluffing.
As per my thinking, Shivaji was Swayambhu (self initiated). He has some born virtues. His mother Jijabai gave him right direction to his virtues and insisted him to bring the Shahaji Raje's dream of Swarajya in reality. His honest servent dadoji helped him in his task and in chieldhood of course he was like a Guru to Shivaji.
There are two opinions about samartha ramdas.
1. He was Shivaji's Guru from the start and shivaji was taking all decisions as per his guidance. Shivaji was his shishya.
2.As there is no proof, shivaji and ramdas has no any relations.
As per my openion, Samartha ramdas was a spiritual yogi but diffenrence is that as like chanyakya he always thought about people and politics and tried his best to awaken people and all maratha sardars at that time against enemies of Hindus Samaj at that time. There may not be proof of everything but when we see the network and Mathas of samarth ramdas all over the india one can imagine the purpose of this network. It is quite possible that shivaji might have taken advantage and samarth knowingly provided all news/helps to him with his network. Because all of the tales cannot be just bluffing. One should use some common sense.
And though not like other ramdasis, Shivaji was may not be actually samartha's disciple, he had great respect about ramdas as he gave him a fort like sajjangad to stay. Shivaji in his life was never been so soft for all deshpandes and patils to hand over a fort to them as that was his policy. But samartha ramdas was very special for him. In later life shivaji may have formally accepted ramdas as a Guru but before that he might have taken help of his network sometimes may be discussed samarth ramdas many time on many issues personally or thorugh others and so must have felt great respect like a Guru for Ramdas throughout this time.

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